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		<title>By: Martha</title>
		<link>http://wrapping.marthaburtis.net/2009/08/11/a-shameful-confession/comment-page-1/#comment-65569</link>
		<dc:creator>Martha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Jan 2010 14:39:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Meg, interestingly, my unit back 10 years ago was positioned within the academic side of things -- we reported through the then Provost. By comparison, my latest stint at the University (which has resulted in a job and a group of colleagues that are pretty amazing)was originally positioned within the IT department. Due to some reorganization, we now report through the Provost&#039;s office. 

In my experience, the question of where instructional technology should live has as much to do with the people inhabiting certain key positions at the University as it does with the philosophical choice of institutional location. 

That said, I do recognize that so many of my colleagues at other institutions have NOT found hospitable homes within IT. I think this has more to do with the fact that many people in positions of power within IT aren&#039;t necessarily sensitive to the academic mission of a University or College. I&#039;m not sure what the solution to that is--but having worked for two CIOs in my career who were simply stellar, I do know it is possible for a CIO to both be effective IT leaders AND promote the academic (and research) mission above all else. 

All of THAT said, in my heart of hearts I wonder what this business of &quot;instructional technology&quot; is really about sometimes. I&#039;m honestly not sure where we fit into our institutions, and the extremely varied experiences of my colleagues at other colleges and universities seems to be evidence that many of our institutions don&#039;t know where we fit, either. 

Thanks for the comment!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Meg, interestingly, my unit back 10 years ago was positioned within the academic side of things &#8212; we reported through the then Provost. By comparison, my latest stint at the University (which has resulted in a job and a group of colleagues that are pretty amazing)was originally positioned within the IT department. Due to some reorganization, we now report through the Provost&#8217;s office. </p>
<p>In my experience, the question of where instructional technology should live has as much to do with the people inhabiting certain key positions at the University as it does with the philosophical choice of institutional location. </p>
<p>That said, I do recognize that so many of my colleagues at other institutions have NOT found hospitable homes within IT. I think this has more to do with the fact that many people in positions of power within IT aren&#8217;t necessarily sensitive to the academic mission of a University or College. I&#8217;m not sure what the solution to that is&#8211;but having worked for two CIOs in my career who were simply stellar, I do know it is possible for a CIO to both be effective IT leaders AND promote the academic (and research) mission above all else. </p>
<p>All of THAT said, in my heart of hearts I wonder what this business of &#8220;instructional technology&#8221; is really about sometimes. I&#8217;m honestly not sure where we fit into our institutions, and the extremely varied experiences of my colleagues at other colleges and universities seems to be evidence that many of our institutions don&#8217;t know where we fit, either. </p>
<p>Thanks for the comment!</p>
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		<title>By: Meg</title>
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		<dc:creator>Meg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Jan 2010 12:52:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your story is similar to me own. And, you probably have experienced this too, it is a common theme for many educational technology professionals. When I get together with my peers from NITLE or at ELI, so many have the same &quot;funny stories,&quot; and &quot;I feel so misunderstood stories.&quot; And oddly enough, they tend to take on your same confessional tone.

To my mind and with my own situation as the context, it comes down to placing the instructional technologists in with the computing group. Back when I was hired (at Vassar College) in late 1998 to support GIS, there was no one doing this kind of focused high-end technology support. Hell, I never really did a job like that before either.  But the smart professor-types  knew they needed someone to load software and find GIS datasets, keep the machines running and still be able to &quot;talk shop&quot; with the profs, to be able to support faculty members outside the primary user group, which was the geographers and the geologists. And over these past ten years or so the position has seriously evolved as the web and other emergent technologies have. I hate to sound like a snob, but you can’t do all that good stuff, be technically focused and still be able to mix it up with faculty on their level, with just a high school degree or with a background limited to technology training. I’d even go so far as to say, having an advanced degree in which primary research was conducted is essential for these roles on campuses.

Anyway, your former boss, instead of encouraging you to take Apple Certification (?!), he/she should have encouraged you to give talks or write papers with faculty on the cool projects you collaborated on, work on grant proposals for bringing in some technology that faculty were asking for but lacked internal financial support, or to seek coveted, academic fellowships, all of these are critically important to the educational mission and are more beneficial to my professional development than learning the latest on how to image a PC lab, staunch out viruses and fix printers and scanners.  The computing group and those who rise to the top and become CIOs do not know what to do with those of us in the academic computing world.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your story is similar to me own. And, you probably have experienced this too, it is a common theme for many educational technology professionals. When I get together with my peers from NITLE or at ELI, so many have the same &#8220;funny stories,&#8221; and &#8220;I feel so misunderstood stories.&#8221; And oddly enough, they tend to take on your same confessional tone.</p>
<p>To my mind and with my own situation as the context, it comes down to placing the instructional technologists in with the computing group. Back when I was hired (at Vassar College) in late 1998 to support GIS, there was no one doing this kind of focused high-end technology support. Hell, I never really did a job like that before either.  But the smart professor-types  knew they needed someone to load software and find GIS datasets, keep the machines running and still be able to &#8220;talk shop&#8221; with the profs, to be able to support faculty members outside the primary user group, which was the geographers and the geologists. And over these past ten years or so the position has seriously evolved as the web and other emergent technologies have. I hate to sound like a snob, but you can’t do all that good stuff, be technically focused and still be able to mix it up with faculty on their level, with just a high school degree or with a background limited to technology training. I’d even go so far as to say, having an advanced degree in which primary research was conducted is essential for these roles on campuses.</p>
<p>Anyway, your former boss, instead of encouraging you to take Apple Certification (?!), he/she should have encouraged you to give talks or write papers with faculty on the cool projects you collaborated on, work on grant proposals for bringing in some technology that faculty were asking for but lacked internal financial support, or to seek coveted, academic fellowships, all of these are critically important to the educational mission and are more beneficial to my professional development than learning the latest on how to image a PC lab, staunch out viruses and fix printers and scanners.  The computing group and those who rise to the top and become CIOs do not know what to do with those of us in the academic computing world.</p>
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		<title>By: Martha</title>
		<link>http://wrapping.marthaburtis.net/2009/08/11/a-shameful-confession/comment-page-1/#comment-64746</link>
		<dc:creator>Martha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Dec 2009 16:51:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>p.s. Sorry for the delayed response (if you even see it!). Your comment was lost in spam hell for a while there. :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>p.s. Sorry for the delayed response (if you even see it!). Your comment was lost in spam hell for a while there. <img src='http://wrapping.marthaburtis.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Martha</title>
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		<dc:creator>Martha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Dec 2009 16:50:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mark, 

Thanks for the comment. It&#039;s always good to hear that others are going through this same process as we struggle to figure out the best way to envelop emerging technologies into our institutions and our lives. And, Gene is right -- confession is good for the soul! 

Glad you like UMW Blogs. The only credit I can take is for the current homepage design. The rest of that vibrant community is a reflection of the amazing faculty and students at UMW -- and the blood, sweat, and tears of Jim Groom!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mark, </p>
<p>Thanks for the comment. It&#8217;s always good to hear that others are going through this same process as we struggle to figure out the best way to envelop emerging technologies into our institutions and our lives. And, Gene is right &#8212; confession is good for the soul! </p>
<p>Glad you like UMW Blogs. The only credit I can take is for the current homepage design. The rest of that vibrant community is a reflection of the amazing faculty and students at UMW &#8212; and the blood, sweat, and tears of Jim Groom!</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Pearson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark Pearson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Oct 2009 20:27:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hah! This *so* similar to my own experience here at Earlham it&#039;s uncanny. But to me the real lesson is what you&#039;ve been able to do recently. I&#039;ve just been poking around http://umwblogs.org and wow, what a fabulous design! Can we pay you to do a design for us? Only half jesting. Very impressive work, well done!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hah! This *so* similar to my own experience here at Earlham it&#8217;s uncanny. But to me the real lesson is what you&#8217;ve been able to do recently. I&#8217;ve just been poking around <a href="http://umwblogs.org" rel="nofollow">http://umwblogs.org</a> and wow, what a fabulous design! Can we pay you to do a design for us? Only half jesting. Very impressive work, well done!</p>
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		<title>By: Gene Roche</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gene Roche</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Aug 2009 17:33:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jeff is right on target.  Being a part of a community that you have a history with is key to having the courage to try new things.  The other consideration is that a decade is a lifetime in this world of educational tech.  Back then you probably wouldn&#039;t have been able to write php code on the college server, so even a simple registration program would have been impossibly complex.  Also, fixing printers and trying to recover data from failing hard drives will *always* drive out creativity and community.  Confession is good for the soul; fear comes with the territory we work in.  No shame called for IMO.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jeff is right on target.  Being a part of a community that you have a history with is key to having the courage to try new things.  The other consideration is that a decade is a lifetime in this world of educational tech.  Back then you probably wouldn&#8217;t have been able to write php code on the college server, so even a simple registration program would have been impossibly complex.  Also, fixing printers and trying to recover data from failing hard drives will *always* drive out creativity and community.  Confession is good for the soul; fear comes with the territory we work in.  No shame called for IMO.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Aug 2009 01:44:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah, but what&#039;s different now is that you&#039;re not isolated like you were then.  Even if you weren&#039;t in your current job, you&#039;d have a support network of people who could help you brainstorm ways of teaching &quot;computer-mediated communication,&quot; people that you had met, in many cases, through, uh, &quot;computer-mediated communication.&quot;

In any case, what your stories remind me is that so much of what we do that makes our work meaningful we&#039;ve done because we&#039;ve had a community of people supporting us in the risks needed to get there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah, but what&#8217;s different now is that you&#8217;re not isolated like you were then.  Even if you weren&#8217;t in your current job, you&#8217;d have a support network of people who could help you brainstorm ways of teaching &#8220;computer-mediated communication,&#8221; people that you had met, in many cases, through, uh, &#8220;computer-mediated communication.&#8221;</p>
<p>In any case, what your stories remind me is that so much of what we do that makes our work meaningful we&#8217;ve done because we&#8217;ve had a community of people supporting us in the risks needed to get there.</p>
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