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		<title>By: Leslie M-B</title>
		<link>http://wrapping.marthaburtis.net/2008/02/08/thinking-bigger/comment-page-1/#comment-33507</link>
		<dc:creator>Leslie M-B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2008 16:33:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Amen.  Just amen.</description>
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		<title>By: &#187; Instructional Technology - Does it Really Matter? techne</title>
		<link>http://wrapping.marthaburtis.net/2008/02/08/thinking-bigger/comment-page-1/#comment-33438</link>
		<dc:creator>&#187; Instructional Technology - Does it Really Matter? techne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Feb 2008 22:23:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] conversation that continues to be carried forward by Martha Burtis  and Laura Blankenship surrounding their recent Fear 2.0 preso at ELI, has encouraged me to [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Chip</title>
		<link>http://wrapping.marthaburtis.net/2008/02/08/thinking-bigger/comment-page-1/#comment-33430</link>
		<dc:creator>Chip</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Feb 2008 19:56:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Martha:

I&#039;ve been listening today to the podcasts from ELI, and I&#039;m struck by a strong sense of privilege for living when we do and for doing the work that we do. Think back six or seven years about the talks we heard then in such venues, compared to what we hear (and participate in) now. I could go back another 10 years and another 10 years -- thanks to my age -- and see the same pattern.  Every day, the amount of territory defined by the term &quot;thinking bigger&quot; grows in size and importance.  What a cool time.

The challenge here, at least for me, is patience with the time it takes for critical mass to be accumulated sufficient to enable real conceptual change.  But I reflect a little and consider the likelihood that I&#039;m a victim of my own ever-rising expectations.  What represented &quot;thinking bigger&quot; in my view a few years ago has come to pass in some important respects, but it falls far short of what I&#039;d call thinking bigger now.  The day we&#039;re not frustrated with the pace of change and with the limits of prevailing vision in higher ed is the day we need to climb down out of the saddle and hand the reins to someone else.

Chip</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Martha:</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been listening today to the podcasts from ELI, and I&#8217;m struck by a strong sense of privilege for living when we do and for doing the work that we do. Think back six or seven years about the talks we heard then in such venues, compared to what we hear (and participate in) now. I could go back another 10 years and another 10 years &#8212; thanks to my age &#8212; and see the same pattern.  Every day, the amount of territory defined by the term &#8220;thinking bigger&#8221; grows in size and importance.  What a cool time.</p>
<p>The challenge here, at least for me, is patience with the time it takes for critical mass to be accumulated sufficient to enable real conceptual change.  But I reflect a little and consider the likelihood that I&#8217;m a victim of my own ever-rising expectations.  What represented &#8220;thinking bigger&#8221; in my view a few years ago has come to pass in some important respects, but it falls far short of what I&#8217;d call thinking bigger now.  The day we&#8217;re not frustrated with the pace of change and with the limits of prevailing vision in higher ed is the day we need to climb down out of the saddle and hand the reins to someone else.</p>
<p>Chip</p>
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		<title>By: Barbara S</title>
		<link>http://wrapping.marthaburtis.net/2008/02/08/thinking-bigger/comment-page-1/#comment-33251</link>
		<dc:creator>Barbara S</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Feb 2008 03:12:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dagnabbit, Martha, just when I was getting ready to roll back into the post-conference idle complacency/sonambulism, you went ahead and posted something thought provoking and wicked close to home.

Okay fine, I will fire up my wee synapses and see what I can come up with as well, although you have certainly echoed a lot of my sentiments and concerns here as well.

Thank you for getting the ball rolling.

Cheers</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dagnabbit, Martha, just when I was getting ready to roll back into the post-conference idle complacency/sonambulism, you went ahead and posted something thought provoking and wicked close to home.</p>
<p>Okay fine, I will fire up my wee synapses and see what I can come up with as well, although you have certainly echoed a lot of my sentiments and concerns here as well.</p>
<p>Thank you for getting the ball rolling.</p>
<p>Cheers</p>
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		<title>By: Sue</title>
		<link>http://wrapping.marthaburtis.net/2008/02/08/thinking-bigger/comment-page-1/#comment-33229</link>
		<dc:creator>Sue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Feb 2008 22:10:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d echo the chorus of &quot;Yes&quot; from above. This is a timely post - and a continuation of a great conversation. 

Clearly there is a conceptual shift that needs to happen amongst a broader community. &quot;Instructional Technology&quot; is a term that does not come close to invoking the ambition and imagination intrinsic to the broader process at hand. That process is one that brings into being a new culture of communication amidst the many paths it has fostered, as well as new means for collaboration and the very production of knowledge.

This seems a production which, when done right, transcends a false (but oft-invoked) divide between creating knowledge and delivering it, and yet which also avoids falling into the parallel trap of simply labeling the medium as the message. Or, its innovators simply as &#039;support&#039;.

I think we do need a new language here in order to reach that broader audience...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d echo the chorus of &#8220;Yes&#8221; from above. This is a timely post &#8211; and a continuation of a great conversation. </p>
<p>Clearly there is a conceptual shift that needs to happen amongst a broader community. &#8220;Instructional Technology&#8221; is a term that does not come close to invoking the ambition and imagination intrinsic to the broader process at hand. That process is one that brings into being a new culture of communication amidst the many paths it has fostered, as well as new means for collaboration and the very production of knowledge.</p>
<p>This seems a production which, when done right, transcends a false (but oft-invoked) divide between creating knowledge and delivering it, and yet which also avoids falling into the parallel trap of simply labeling the medium as the message. Or, its innovators simply as &#8216;support&#8217;.</p>
<p>I think we do need a new language here in order to reach that broader audience&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Chris L</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris L</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Feb 2008 20:49:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another big Y-E-S here. I don&#039;t often self-link, but &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.gardnercampbell.net/blog1/?p=587&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Gardner&#039;s recent post&lt;/a&gt; spurred &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.chrislott.org/2008/02/08/incrementalism-and-innovation/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;thoughts of my own&lt;/a&gt; and both are serendipitously aligned with your post in important ways.

It&#039;s easy (not to mention institutionally encouraged) to fall back into thinking small. That kind of thinking needs to be done because there are every day activities to be made better, but given diligent effort that will happen anyway. Thinking big doesn&#039;t happen by accident...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another big Y-E-S here. I don&#8217;t often self-link, but <a href="http://www.gardnercampbell.net/blog1/?p=587" rel="nofollow">Gardner&#8217;s recent post</a> spurred <a href="http://www.chrislott.org/2008/02/08/incrementalism-and-innovation/" rel="nofollow">thoughts of my own</a> and both are serendipitously aligned with your post in important ways.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s easy (not to mention institutionally encouraged) to fall back into thinking small. That kind of thinking needs to be done because there are every day activities to be made better, but given diligent effort that will happen anyway. Thinking big doesn&#8217;t happen by accident&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Laura</title>
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		<dc:creator>Laura</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Feb 2008 20:13:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What a fabulous post! Obviously, I&#039;ve been thinking about these things a lot lately and I&#039;m so glad you wrote this now as I was back to getting bogged down in the details.  I&#039;m struggling with a way to a) make change institutionally about the way we think about technology and b) to enact that change on a daily basis in all the little interactions I have.  Your last couple of sentences really hit the nail on the head for me:

There is something more fundamental, more urgent, and more important below those surfaces. We need to find it, and we need to define our roles at our institutions so that when we find it we can help to make change happen.

It&#039;s not that there is a web and cell phones and laptops and smartboards, but that the existence of those things has changed the way we interact with each other, the way we think, the way we work, and more.  And yet, in some places, it hasn&#039;t.  Or people are not thinking or refusing to think about the way that technology has the potential to change what we do--for the better.  Instead, people mourn the loss of some imagined idyllic past that never. really. existed and try to maintain that imaginary past.  I&#039;m trying to stay positive, but I keep running into brick walls of various kinds.  I really, really don&#039;t want to be in a place that gets left behind.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What a fabulous post! Obviously, I&#8217;ve been thinking about these things a lot lately and I&#8217;m so glad you wrote this now as I was back to getting bogged down in the details.  I&#8217;m struggling with a way to a) make change institutionally about the way we think about technology and b) to enact that change on a daily basis in all the little interactions I have.  Your last couple of sentences really hit the nail on the head for me:</p>
<p>There is something more fundamental, more urgent, and more important below those surfaces. We need to find it, and we need to define our roles at our institutions so that when we find it we can help to make change happen.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s not that there is a web and cell phones and laptops and smartboards, but that the existence of those things has changed the way we interact with each other, the way we think, the way we work, and more.  And yet, in some places, it hasn&#8217;t.  Or people are not thinking or refusing to think about the way that technology has the potential to change what we do&#8211;for the better.  Instead, people mourn the loss of some imagined idyllic past that never. really. existed and try to maintain that imaginary past.  I&#8217;m trying to stay positive, but I keep running into brick walls of various kinds.  I really, really don&#8217;t want to be in a place that gets left behind.</p>
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		<title>By: Britt Watwood</title>
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		<dc:creator>Britt Watwood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Feb 2008 19:10:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You must have been a fly on the wall regarding conversations we have been having this past week here in our Center (...or perhaps it was the fact that Jeff Nugent was with you at ELI).  Regardless, roles, responsibilities, and even processes are evolving to match the interconnected read-write web environment that folks like Gardner model so well.  It is like watching the world from a yo-yo, wondering sometimes why things are spinning so fast and other times why things are not moving at all!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You must have been a fly on the wall regarding conversations we have been having this past week here in our Center (&#8230;or perhaps it was the fact that Jeff Nugent was with you at ELI).  Regardless, roles, responsibilities, and even processes are evolving to match the interconnected read-write web environment that folks like Gardner model so well.  It is like watching the world from a yo-yo, wondering sometimes why things are spinning so fast and other times why things are not moving at all!</p>
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		<title>By: Andy Rush</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andy Rush</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Feb 2008 17:49:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ll just add one more BIG YES!</description>
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		<title>By: Gardner</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gardner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Feb 2008 17:20:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes!</p>
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